M&R Episode 268: Sean Gillespie talks about an unstable America and why moving to Mexico is a good option.

In Episode 268 I spoke with Sean Gillespie. Sean moved to Mexico to ensure a brighter future. His observations of American politics and analysis of the American economy led him to believe it’s only a matter of time before there’s an implosion. His concerns led him to seek a life in Mexico where since his arrival all of his health issues have been resolved and his life has taken a turn for the better. Enjoy!

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Show Transcription: What up all you beautiful Misfits and Rejects out there? Thank you for joining me for episode

268 of Misfits and Rejects. In today's episode I spoke with Sean Gillespie, also known as

CaribeGringo on YouTube as well as Instagram. Sean found himself

frustrated with the US, found himself looking at the data,

crunching the numbers, and it just not making sense. He felt people should be more concerned about the

destabilization of America that was going on in front of his eyes.

Pay more attention to the petrodollar and just felt in general nobody was really addressing the things that needed to be addressed to

keep America vibrant and healthy. So he decided to seek opportunities elsewhere and landed in Playa del Carmen, Mexico.

And if you follow him on Instagram or you check him out on his YouTube channel, he gives tons of great information,

data driven information that gives you some interesting perspectives on Mexico,

America, and the current state of the economies around the world.

I really found his YouTube channel and Instagram really fascinating, so I think you should definitely check it out.

I'll put that in the show notes. And if you're somebody seeking opportunities outside of America,

he's a wealth of knowledge and definitely worth reaching out to. If you're a first-time listener,

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please sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode with Sean Gillespie, Caribe Gringo.

Welcome to Misfits and Rejects, a podcast about the lifestyle design of ex-patriots, travelers,

entrepreneurs, and adventurers. I'm your host, Chape and Cruder. Enjoy.

I didn't fit in America.

With cocaine, there's just always too many guns and too many bad attitudes.

I quit the limiting stories.

Really try to overcome that fear.

And right there, for any of your listeners,

a lot of what I was to do in the rest of my life was formulated by the fact I just went and did it.

Welcome to another episode of Misfits and Rejects. Today, we are joined by Sean Gillespie,

Caribe Gringo. Sean, welcome to the show.

Thank you. Glad to be here, man.

Yeah, it's a pleasure to have you. I've really enjoyed what you're putting out on Instagram, your adventures over in Playa del Carmen, Mexico.

Can you give us a little bit of your background and what you were doing in the States prior to your decision to move to Mexico?

Yeah, I was running a manufacturing company. I owned a manufacturing company with my ex, and

we basically manufacture new personal products. So we used what manufactured very high-end protein and creatine

that we were sourcing from, like, Germany. Both of those, actually, we were sourcing from Germany.

It was just a very stressful environment. Every time I would come to Mexico,

we'd go to the Riviera Maya, and I'd be like, it's the only place in the world I could relax. So

I was getting bored with the thing about where to live, and I essentially said, you know what?

I'm going to go to Playa del Carmen because I need peace, and that's the best place for me to get peace.

So that's what brought me to Mexico.

So it was really just kind of a de-stressor play. There wasn't necessarily a breaking point that you

just said, I'm done with America for now. It was more just a long career in corporate America and

then your own entrepreneurial endeavors, and Mexico was just the right retirement decision for you?

Yeah, I think so. And I wasn't necessarily aware of how amazing Mexico was until I got down here.

But before I came down here, I always tell people I suffered from a disease that I call

obsessive political disorder. So I had very bad obsessive political disorder, and

almost everything I talked about had to do with politics and how screwed up the US was.

I didn't understand why things were happening, and I was very much like, we're just losing the

country. No one's looking at the dollar. We're going to lose the petrodollar. We've got all

these immigrants coming in that hate us. We're making enemies all over the world, and then we

have this woke culture going on with people stealing stuff, and it's like, man, this just

isn't the place that I grew up in. And so I was not happy, and I thought if I popped enough about

the political side of it, that it would change. And after coming here, it's like, okay, there's

a different world. I don't worry about it anymore, and it's just it is what it is. And the US, I love

the people there, but the country, I think, or the government is extremely bad there.

I see. So that's interesting, because there's obviously other choices in the nearby area.

You could have gone north to Canada. You could have gone to British Virgin Islands,

but you chose Mexico. And that's really interesting to me. You said that you used to

vacation here a lot, so you were familiar with the environment. Was there one specific thing

that you thought this would be a great opportunity for me? Because I know at this point,

you're dabbling in entrepreneurial ventures here in Mexico as well.

Yeah. You know, initially, I didn't really dabble in anything. I had the company in the US,

and I was relying on that pretty much. So I didn't do a whole lot when I first got down here.

Now I'm like, okay, I need to break connections with that business and then do something on my

own. So now I'm just starting to get connected with how to make money different here. And so I

didn't initially come down because of any kind of opportunity. But then after I was down here,

I just started looking at a lot of financial data. How in debt is Mexico compared to the US?

How much money are they spending on these infrastructure? What infrastructure projects

are they doing? What's the unemployment rate? What's their industry? Is it manufacturing?

Is it tourism? Is it mining? Where are they making their money? And the more I dug in and the more I

uncovered, the more I realized that, wow, Mexico is basically just like the United States was

coming out of World War II. So where I see the United States and its final, you know,

cycle of a democracy or an empire, whatever you want to call it, I see Mexico on stage one.

So I think every day gets better in Mexico and every day gets worse in the United States.

I really like your point of view and the data points that you provide on your Instagram and

YouTube channel are really fascinating to me because you're well researched in a lot of stuff

that you said have led me into doing more research and finding out like, you know,

how much you were saying we actually rely on Mexico more than China in one of your posts recently.

That really caught my attention. And just being here in the environment, you know,

day in and day out, year after year, you really just see this country's thriving.

Yeah. Yeah. I was interviewing a guy today. He's taking like a real estate MBA kind of class

here in Mexico City. So he's from Tulum and they're bringing out, you know, some of the top

developers to talk in their classes. And, you know, he's confirmed everything that I've been

saying about virtually every major area of Mexico is just on fire from a real estate perspective.

So even Mexico City, I was taking pictures of cranes of all the building construction going

up, all the high rise they're putting out. There's probably 20 different cranes that I

thought was walking around town where they're building new condos here in Mexico. And

Mexico City and they're, you know, but everywhere I look, you know, whether it's Cancun,

Playa, Merida, Tulum, Puerto Vallarta, both Cabos, I mean, Sayulita,

Quietoro, I mean, everything is just growing. And it's interesting to see because I've never seen

any kind of growth like this in my lifetime anywhere I've ever lived. And it all goes back

to I think it's going to be very similar to the post-World War II US here.

That's so interesting. When I came back from China in 2004, I decided to try to make like an

economy Chinese play in the market. You know, I found like a Chinese ETF just because I saw the

same thing in China with all the cranes and the development and just it was a booming economy.

And, you know, I did okay with that. I was pretty happy with that play. And it's interesting. That's

how you make decisions as well by just going out, doing the legwork, taking photos. And,

you know, what do you attribute that behavior to within yourself? I mean,

you sound like a very analytical data-driven individual.

Yeah, I would say I'm very analytical. And I, you know, I make pretty much all my decisions

or I try to make both my decisions on data and what the data show. And I'm just very curious. So,

you know, I asked a lot of questions. I try to uncover as many things as I can. And

I just stay curious all the time, I guess.

And then, I mean, I know you have a military background. Do you think that plays into your

behavior at all? Well, it probably gives me a little bit more methodical reasoning. You know,

I was like in the Navy's nuclear power program. So, you know, that was a, they taught you a lot

about thinking and how to critically think and figure things out. So, yeah, that probably helps

me a little bit. It sounds like your life is de-stressed quite a bit since you landed in

Mexico. And although you are looking for new ventures, it sounds like your overall

well-being and mental state of mind is a lot healthier. Would you agree?

Yeah. And I had like, I had a lot of stomach issues when I first moved here. And I had,

well, not from here, but you know, like I had like a history of like stomach issues. I had a history

of like high blood pressure. I was, I was taking like, you know, several different medications.

And so since coming down here, I've gotten completely off of everything. And I no longer

have stomach issues. I no longer have high blood pressure. And, you know, I wasn't even in that

great of shape. I was probably 30 pounds heavier, you know. So now I have time to, you know, I work

out like two or three days a week, but I stay pretty fit. I walk with, you know, my dog quite

often almost every day. I just stay a lot more active. And yeah, the stress now is like gone.

Wow. So just the decrease in your stress levels, you think has kind of remedied a lot of your

ailments? I think that's been a big part of it. I mean, I have started supplementing more magnesium,

you know, and that definitely can help with blood pressure. So it could be partially that, but,

you know, now, even if I take, you know, two or three weeks off of taking any magnesium,

my blood pressure still stays really low. And my blood pressure is getting like really high.

Like, you know, we're talking over 200 over 170. It was really, really high. And here I had, you

know, one stressful situation and I asked him to check my blood pressure. It was like 150 over 90,

I think the highest I've seen it. So yeah, it's a different lifestyle for sure. Are you getting

into this MTHFR like genetic deformity that this I see all over Instagram right now where you have

to take methylated vitamins? Yeah, I've been aware of that for quite some time. They call it the

motherfucker mutation. It's just MTHFR was the synonym or the, so that's why they call it that.

But yeah, I've seen, you know, some of Gary Breck's stuff on that. And I agree with him on

a part of that, you know, genetic testing, but I'm probably more of a, I guess I'm more of a believer

in the 90 essential nutrients for health, which is kind of what Gary talks about, but he doesn't,

he's like in looking at one thing. So I think it's important to know, you know, which mutations

you have, but if you have the right supplements, then that overcomes a lot of those issues.

Yeah. I mean, I haven't, I don't know the 90 essentials, but Gary's been interesting to me

on my radar recently. So have you ever actually had the genetic testing? Yeah, no, I haven't done it.

I was going to do some epigenome testing here in Mexico city, but I'm going to have to postpone

that. And epigenome basically tests your body for those 90 nutrients to see what you're lacking in.

And if you're, and if you're not taking methylated vitamins and you have any of those,

you know, mutations that'll, you know, show up as deficiencies on the B vitamin side, but you can

overcome all of those deficiencies by supplementing the right form of vitamins. We had actually

created, I still have it, a company called AltaPure. We'd created the most advanced

multivitamin that's ever been created. We had like three medical doctors on the team, a couple

different PhDs, and we came up with a formula that's using only methylated vitamins. But if

you look at it, it's like by far the best multivitamin that's ever been created. It's just,

we haven't put a lot of marketing into it. Understood. And it sounds like you're parting

ways with your old company. Yeah, I'm parting ways. So my ex is wanting to run the whole company. And

so we're figuring out how to structure that and do to get that done. So. Gotcha. Gotcha. And then

she stayed in the US. Yes. Right on. And so it sounds like you're diving into more real estate

here in Mexico, as you said earlier, and what has that yielded for you thus far? Do you have

now a real estate company or are you kind of finding it hard to get all the necessary,

do you need work permits? Like, how have you gone about that?

Well, I mean, in real estate here in Mexico, I mean, you know, you can do real estate in

Mexico without any kind of license or certification. A matter of fact, most of

the realtors that I see in Quintana Roo, they don't have any credentials at all. And even

in Mexico City here, I've been told they don't have any credentials. So anybody can be a realtor.

So I'm not really interested in selling real estate per se. I think my number one driver of

what's going on with me right now is I'm trying, I think the sky is falling in the United States

and probably all Western civilization. And I'm trying to basically articulate what I see there

and then kind of tell people that there's another option that you don't have to live this life,

that there's another life, you know, that you can live where you don't have that impending doom

and the out of control crime and all of that. And for me, that one of the best places is here in

Mexico. So talking about those things just kind of connects me naturally with real estate people

because they use a lot of, you know, some of the things I say in videos, they share them with,

you know, their potential clients. So I've gotten a lot of contacts for there.

But I'm not per se in real estate, but I am maybe per se in lead generation with real estate agents

that I have, you know, come to know and trust. So, you know, for instance, if somebody's looking for,

you know, to buy property anywhere in Mexico, you know, I'm establishing the networks so that

I can hand them off to somebody that's going to best fit their needs so they're not going

to get ripped off. But I really look at myself as a connector in Mexico, meaning no matter what

issue you have, I'm a good resource for you to reach out to and say, hey, I've got this issue,

can you help me out? Like I had some guys with a mine in Durango, you know, fly down here and meet

with me. I was able to make one call and connected them with a, you know, a guy that specializes in

putting deals between, you know, mining companies and investors. I think I got lucky on there.

I had, you know, out of the blue, I had a video call with a company that does

nursing homes and retirement communities. And they're looking, they do all the architecture

and they manage the properties. And then now I'm finding, you know, other people are reaching out

and saying, hey, I'm looking to invest in a nursing home or a retirement community. Can you

help me out? And I just connect them with the right person. So, and, you know, even for

immigration, like when I got my residency, it cost me $5,000 because I did it through a Mexican

attorney. And, you know, now I found where you can get that done for about 2,000 to 2,500. So I

passed people off to that attorney. But, you know, insurance, moving your household goods,

basically anything that you would need, you know, moving to Mexico, starting a business, you know,

all of that stuff, I help connect people with the right resources so they don't get, you know,

ripped off and taken advantage of. So then are they paying you like an hourly fee or are you

taking a percentage of some kind of like middleman deal? You know, right now we just work out some

kind of like, you know, you know, basically a commission that they, you know, end up working

with that person. So it's one of those things that I haven't made any money from it yet. We're just

trying to get everything structured. I think it'll start generating money soon. So that's,

you know, kind of the main thing on my radar. And then the second thing on my radar is I'm going to

start, I wanted to start a stem cell clinic, but then later I got the idea, instead of doing a

clinic right away, I'm going to do concierge stem cells. So actually have, you know, very good

connections on where to get the stem cells, we get the best quality, the right price, and then

we'll send the doctor right into your hotel room or your, you know, condo, wherever you're

housed, wherever you're staying. And he'll be able to administer the stem filter there. And then we

can save people a little money because we're not, you know, having to pay for the overhead of a

clinic. Yeah. Wow. I looked into it up in Tijuana and they wanted $21,000 from me to do like one

round of stem cells. I was shocked. That's crazy because like we're going to be doing a hundred

million, which is significant in the stem cell world. One of the top three, you know, it's hard

to evaluate which one's better, but we've, you know, we've got, you know, one of the top three

stem cell companies in Mexico. And, you know, we're, we'll probably advertise or we'll probably like

list the price of about 4,000, but we'll discount it periodically down to 3,500 or a hundred million.

And then we can do another like a hundred billion stem cells on top of that, or

like another 2,000, 3,000, that probably another 3,000 US depending on what they want. So you

could get a hundred billion exosomes and a hundred million stem cells or, you know, under,

under probably 5,500. And are they sourcing those from like umbilical cords?

Yeah, they're, what they told me is they're sourcing them from, um, like they're paying

for the health insurance for, for mothers that don't have a lot of money. And then they are

basically harvesting the umbilical cord, the placenta and that, you know, when the child is

born. So they pay, you know, so it's like they're paying for all the medical care.

And then that's what they're, you know, they get in the end is that stuff. So it's not,

and they're not cloning it. They're just taking it directly out of that material.

And that's how we purchase it. Yeah. That's so fascinating to me. Yeah. I mean,

it seems like it's doing wonders for a lot of athletes out there who suffer from things. And

I definitely have a few ailments I'd like to get treated, but I just can't afford $21,000 right

now. Yeah. I heard somebody else paying something similar to that. It was like they went down to

Columbia or what was it? Panama, I think it was Panama or Columbia. I can't remember. And they,

their son had a bunch of like ruptured discs and they injected the stem cells with PRP, I think

into each of the areas. And, and then they, they got maybe 150 million stem cells, which,

you know, cost on that is not, not significant. I mean, the cost on that, you know, should be

under 5,000. And he ended up paying about 25,000 as well. And I think a lot of that had to do with,

you know, maybe where they were injecting, but yeah, 21,000 for stem cells. It's crazy. I know

in the U S a hundred million stem cells will cost you 16 to 20,000. So it's, it's interesting that

they were charging that much, unless they were the new, unless they were the new killer stem cells.

I don't know if you've heard of those, but there's some, there's these other stem cells they're,

they're coming out with that are, they're calling them killer stem cells because they're having a

lot of success and knocking out cancer. Oh, no, I haven't heard of those. And no, they said it was

umbilical cords. They were harvesting the stem cells from, so probably the same company that you're

courting. With the, the visa that you chose, what kind of visa did you choose to get?

I just got a resident. I mean, I just got a temporary residency here. So I get, you know,

the, the card that says I'm legal, I can skip all the lines when I come in through immigration.

And how long does that last for you? How many years? I think it's four years,

and then I can convert it to a permanent residency. Yep. That's exactly what I got as well.

And do you think you're going to take it year by year? Do you see that being maybe

your long-term plan? You know, right now, I think I see Mexico as my long-term plan.

That could change. Um, you know, I think initially when I started looking at the data,

I was saying great things coming in with the Mexico and Brazil and then Brazil elected, um,

Luna and, and our Lula and, uh, seeing what Lula was doing in Brazil, it's like, okay,

Brazil is no longer on track to be a booming economy. And Mexico, despite what some people,

you know, say about, um, AMLO, you know, and I know they've created some business,

you know, issues for a lot of businesses, but, um, overall, I mean, it's not stopping, you know,

the Mexican train from, you know, picking up speed. So, you know, provided we don't have any

major, you know, political issues that, you know, get rid of, you know, ownership and that kind of

stuff and shut things down. And, you know, Mexico is going to have a very strong future.

And do you see yourself in the Quintero area, like Playa del Carmen area, now that you've been to

Mexico City and I know you've traveled a little bit more, do you, do you seek other places with

interest? You know, it's, we're in Mexico City. I really like it here. I can see myself living

here, but then I still miss, you know, Playa del Carmen, because I'm right on the, you know,

the water there and it's just such a peaceful place. But, you know, I hear a lot of good things

about, you know, so many different areas of Mexico and it's like, man, I need to go check those out

because, you know, maybe there are better places than Playa del Carmen and, you know, like,

keeps coming up. Escondido, there's another, another one that keeps, there's several places

that keep coming up. It's like, you know, I really need to check those out because maybe those are

even better than what I have in Playa. Yeah. Yeah. And keeping it, keeping an ear out on my pod,

because I'll be interviewing quite a few expats here in Mexico over the next few weeks through

some of these expat groups I'm involved with on Facebook. So you'll hear a lot of different

locations and what people are doing in those locations. Okay. Yeah, that'll be good.

So if you had one thing to tell to somebody who's listening to this podcast, stuck in a life

situation they're unhappy with and really inspired by what you're doing, what would you tell them,

like, to get out of that situation? How would you inspire them to think about that, making that next

step? You know, it depends on what they're stuck in. If they're stuck because they're seeing the

U.S., you know, crumble, then I would say figure out how to get out. You know, I don't, you know,

depend on where they're stuck in their life. But I would say, you know, if you're not happy

with whether it's your relationship or your circumstances, your job, it doesn't matter.

You know, the United States is not the only, you know, option out there. And I would seriously

look at Mexico for a lot of different people, especially people that were, you know, entrepreneurial

and didn't mind working and kind of finding their own way. Because I think for people that want to

work hard, you can do really well in Mexico. If you're a person that doesn't work really hard,

you're not going to do well in Mexico. So unlike the United States, where, you know, you can float

by if you don't work really hard or if you lose everything, you can get welfare and, you know,

unemployment and all that, you know, you don't have the safety nets here in Mexico. They rely

on their family primarily, you know, the people that live here when, you know, they have things

like that happen. But if you're, you know, a hard worker and willing to get it done, you know,

Mexico is a lot nicer than what people give it credit for. But, you know, Mexico City,

you know, I'm here now, you could compare this to New York City. And I think in every category,

Mexico City would win. So it's just a much better way of life. People are a lot friendlier here.

I love it, Sean. Thank you for your time.

No problem. Good talking to you.

Awesome, Sean. Thank you so much for your time. It was a pleasure talking with you folks.

Check him out in the show notes, Caribe Gringo on YouTube, as well as on Instagram. Again,

if you're thinking about opportunities outside of America, he does make some very compelling

arguments why Mexico is positioning itself to be similar to the U.S. after World War II.

So please don't hesitate to reach out to him, reach out to me, and we'll do our best to

give you the information you're seeking and point you in some interesting directions.

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